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Child expelled from Catholic School because parents are gay 

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F-117_Nighthawk
Jay Riot v2
F-117_Nighthawk
Kaworu 17
Jay Riot v2
Who's rules? I don't know the constitution like the back of my hand, but I do know you can't invade the public sphere with religion in most instances. The gov has the authority to dictate a church's moral standards when it negatively affects citizens of the nation. The federal government's responsibility is to it's people, first and foremost.
Excuse me, where is that in the Constitution?


It's not. Jayrot is just wishing out loud.

Ugh, it's common ******** sense nighthawk. Go kill yourself.

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For most, marriage is a religious event.

We're discussing government recognized marriage. You know? That paperwork you fill out, and those benefits you receive when married? Christ you're a stupid ********. How'd your dad not beat you when you were a kid?


No, Jayrot wants to discuss marriage as if religion has nothing to do with it. Religion has an integral role in most American marriages, and therefore Jayrot's desire to have a gov't edict impose on everyone his definition of what marriage should be, is a direct violation of the Constitution.

Remember Jayrot, a gov't with the authority to tell Churches what they can teach and what traditions they can practice, is a gov't with the authority to tell you what you can write on this forum, what you can watch on TV, and what books you can read.

Too many died on battlefields all over the world, and here in America, to let the likes of you argue, unchallenged, that freedom should be surrendered to gov't elitists.


As far as the government is concerned, marriage should have nothing to do with religion.
 
     
 
F-117_Nighthawk
No, Jayrot wants to discuss marriage as if religion has nothing to do with it. Religion has an integral role in most American marriages, and therefore Jayrot's desire to have a gov't edict impose on everyone his definition of what marriage should be, is a direct violation of the Constitution.

Non sequitur.
The one does not follow from the other.
Legalising gay marriage simply changes the legal definitions and standards. Not the religious ones.

You also ignore the religions and religious sects that would marry gay couples if it were legal to do so, you seem not to care about their religious freedom.

Hypocrite.
     
Redem

Legalising gay marriage simply changes the legal definitions and standards. Not the religious ones.
+10,000 internets.

It's about time people realized this...
 
     
 
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Religion has an integral role in most American marriages, and therefore Jayrot's desire to have a gov't edict impose on everyone his definition of what marriage should be, is a direct violation of the Constitution.


Why do the religion who view of marriage is NOT the same as the fundamentalist Christians have to bow to the current definition, then?
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Remember Jayrot, a gov't with the authority to tell Churches what they can teach and what traditions they can practice, is a gov't with the authority to tell you what you can write on this forum, what you can watch on TV, and what books you can read.

Too many died on battlefields all over the world, and here in America, to let the likes of you argue, unchallenged, that freedom should be surrendered to gov't elitists.


Because it needs to be surrendered to religious fundamentalists instead? stare
     

"Never say, 'She is only a feeble and ignorant woman, how can she rule such a vast empire?' I will rule here, to the good fortune of my people and the glory of my name! I will worship no gods but those of my ancestors. The ocean shall be the boundary of my realm, and I will not cede the thickness of one hair of my realm!"
GunsmithKitten
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Religion has an integral role in most American marriages, and therefore Jayrot's desire to have a gov't edict impose on everyone his definition of what marriage should be, is a direct violation of the Constitution.


Why do the religion who view of marriage is NOT the same as the fundamentalist Christians have to bow to the current definition, then?
Quote:

Remember Jayrot, a gov't with the authority to tell Churches what they can teach and what traditions they can practice, is a gov't with the authority to tell you what you can write on this forum, what you can watch on TV, and what books you can read.

Too many died on battlefields all over the world, and here in America, to let the likes of you argue, unchallenged, that freedom should be surrendered to gov't elitists.


Because it needs to be surrendered to religious fundamentalists instead? stare


As long as it's the "right" religious fundamentalists.
 
     
 
Mokie7
Redem

Legalising gay marriage simply changes the legal definitions and standards. Not the religious ones.
+10,000 internets.

It's about time people realized this...

It's what I'm trying to explain to the poor fellow. But I'm not a good teacher apparently. It couldn't be any simpler. It really doesn't have a damn thing to do with churches or religion.
     
Jay Riot v2
Mokie7
Redem

Legalising gay marriage simply changes the legal definitions and standards. Not the religious ones.
+10,000 internets.

It's about time people realized this...

It's what I'm trying to explain to the poor fellow. But I'm not a good teacher apparently. It couldn't be any simpler. It really doesn't have a damn thing to do with churches or religion.


I don't think it's your explanation but rather trying to do so with someone whose head is like concrete. All mixed up, set in its ways, and hard as a rock, although admittedly less porous so nothing new can seep in.
 
     
A little ammunition never hurts when you have the right weapons.

Learn to speak Teabag!
 
Ammo Amy
Jay Riot v2
Mokie7
Redem

Legalising gay marriage simply changes the legal definitions and standards. Not the religious ones.
+10,000 internets.

It's about time people realized this...

It's what I'm trying to explain to the poor fellow. But I'm not a good teacher apparently. It couldn't be any simpler. It really doesn't have a damn thing to do with churches or religion.


I don't think it's your explanation but rather trying to do so with someone whose head is like concrete. All mixed up, set in its ways, and hard as a rock, although admittedly less porous so nothing new can seep in.

I think if he's able to navigate this website, he can understand said concept. I bet he understands only what he wants to. It's not easy realizing you're in the dark, on an issue you've probably spent years arguing about.
     
I'm just wondering if the consequences will ever be the same!
Redem
Appel Juice
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Kaworu 17
Redem

Well, seeing as this is the level of absurdity you have to go to to justify your desire to be bigoted against gay people. I think we can call it here. Been fun.
I'll take that as a concession.
Nothing of the sort. I am taking the fact that you have to reach for absurdities to defend your position as a concession. Nothing more to discuss, in that instance.


Just say you concede. Do you really care what this smug a*****e thinks of you?
No, but I get the impulse behind this too often for my own good.


Swear to god that comic was made about me.

No, really. He even looks a little like me.
 
     
 
F-117_Nighthawk
Jay Riot v2
F-117_Nighthawk
Kaworu 17
Jay Riot v2
Who's rules? I don't know the constitution like the back of my hand, but I do know you can't invade the public sphere with religion in most instances. The gov has the authority to dictate a church's moral standards when it negatively affects citizens of the nation. The federal government's responsibility is to it's people, first and foremost.
Excuse me, where is that in the Constitution?


It's not. Jayrot is just wishing out loud.

Ugh, it's common ******** sense nighthawk. Go kill yourself.

Quote:
For most, marriage is a religious event.

We're discussing government recognized marriage. You know? That paperwork you fill out, and those benefits you receive when married? Christ you're a stupid ********. How'd your dad not beat you when you were a kid?


No, Jayrot wants to discuss marriage as if religion has nothing to do with it. Religion has an integral role in most American marriages, and therefore Jayrot's desire to have a gov't edict impose on everyone his definition of what marriage should be, is a direct violation of the Constitution.

Remember Jayrot, a gov't with the authority to tell Churches what they can teach and what traditions they can practice, is a gov't with the authority to tell you what you can write on this forum, what you can watch on TV, and what books you can read.

Too many died on battlefields all over the world, and here in America, to let the likes of you argue, unchallenged, that freedom should be surrendered to gov't elitists.


And instead we should have the church telling the government what to do? That's preferable?

And anyway, that's not what Jay's advocating. Changing the legal definition of marriage need not have any effect on the religious. Just in the same way that Bill Clinton becoming President didn't really change the situation for anyone else named Bill. Churches wouldn't be forced to do anything they didn't want to.
     


The Mad Hatter would like his Tea Pot back.
You're ruining his Un-Birthday, and he doesn't take no for an answer.
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